In my own opinion, I think the two communities were more different then they were alike. First of all, holy crud Mr. Blais, there was a lot of information to search through, and I'm sure there was more that I didn't click into. But the archive was very well put together. There were some similarities, like land size of the two communities, and some other small factors, but I think they seem to have more differences. The first would be the number of slave holders, free individuals, slave holders, and total investment. The total weath was different between the total wealth. The heads of households were also different in many ways, ones with real estate, ones with no real estate, ones with personal property, etc. The population of the two communities also changed. Franklin's decreased, as Augusta's increased slightly. Finally, the miles of major and minor roads differed in both towns. These are just some of the MANY statistical differences. But I also think that the towns at a glance seem similar. They both seem like small, tight communitive towns, by the descriptions given in the archive. I think they was also similarities within the people of these two towns/communities as well.
I thought that the two counties would be very similar since they bordered each other. However, I agree with Dubey that they are very different. they are made up of different people, slave owning farmers who are a little richer in Augusta, and a more industrialized group in Franklin. The newspapers also seemed more similar at first, but had the region's own little twist on it. It is hard to discern how big the populations were because it was done as a percentage of the state and the states had different populations.
Wow, there was a lot of information in that archive. After reading through the documents, which took hours, I came to the decision that the two counties were more different than they were similar. Augusta county which was located in Virginia, had a greater population increase, as well as more slaves. Franklin county was bigger on manufacturing and education. I think the biggest difference between the two counties was the election of 1860. In Augusta county, Lincoln was not even put on the ballot, but in Franklin Lincoln recieved a majority of the votes. Even though the two counties were different in many ways, there were also a few similarities. Both counties were involved in the Civil War, and lost a number of troops. Both counties were affected by the crisis in the country, but both prevailed and ended up rebuilding their communites after the war.
I agree that the two counties are more different than alike. The main thing that distinguishes Franklin County from Augusta is that Franklin did not have slaves. This fact is the reason for many of the other differences between the two counties as well. For example, the Augusta County militia and the Franklin County militia were both activated, but the Augusta militia had to protect the white citizens of the county from slave rebellions on top of taking care of their other duties. Another difference between the counties that stems from slavery is that Franklin county had African-American churches while Augusta county did not. Also, the voters in Augusta did not even put Lincoln on the ballot and strongly favored Bell, while in Franklin County the voters favored Lincoln and hardly voted for Bell at all. Anyway, I would say that the counties had more differences than similarities and that the cause of many of these differences was based on the fact that Augusta County had slavery while Franklin County did not.
I would agree that the two counties were more different than similar, and a lot of that had to do with the presence or lack there of of slaves. In Augusta county, there was slavery, while in Franklin county there was not. There was more manufacturing in Franklin county, but they were both agricultura. Franklin county had a much higher literacy rate than Augusta county as well. They were very different suprisingly, even though they are pretty close together geographically. They were both part of the Confederacy, but did have different views politically. In Augusta county, the majority of the voting population were Whigs, while in Franklin county the majority was Democratic. this is a pretty major difference, which says a lot about how different the lifestyles in the two counties must have been. Overall, these two counties were far mor different than similar.
I agree that the two counties differ in many ways and that the differences are because Augusta had slaves while Franklin did not. Franklin and Augusta had similar geography and were located within a 200 mile radius of each other, although it seems that Augusta was more developed than Franklin. The people held similar jobs and there was a relatively close number of people who had those jobs as well. Other similarities were the real estate and personal estate that the people owned. Slavery, however establishes the many differences in the two counties. Abe Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in Augusta and most voted for Bell. In Franklin most people voted for Lincoln and some for Breckinridge. Franklin also had more major roads whereas Augusta had more minor roads. Although there were a few similarities between the two counties, the amount of differences out numbers the minute shared features between the two counties.
The two towns are geographicly very much the same. Because they were so close, the same types of problems would probably effect them. This lead to many similarities before the war in economic depression that were noticable in the letters and journals. They are also close to Washington and so people of these counties were aware of the political differances in congress and the white house. These political differances were put into full swing in the election of 1860. This showed the astonishing differance in politics between the two counties (lincoln wasnt even on the balot in Augusta). However, these two counties had many more important differances, the most important of course is that Augusta county sells slaves and Franklin county does not. Franklin also concentrated a lot on industry and economic developement. The civil war was a catastrafy for all comunities in the areas of battle and Franklin and Augusta county were no exception.
Two towns with almost identical geographical locations wouild in turn turn out very different. These two towns of Augusta and Franklin. These towns showed a north vs. south split. Though still close and even of the same state they would go about things very differently. This showed the obvious cause and need to slit Virginina and add West Virginia. Augusta was a a slave driven state well Franklin didn’t really have slaves and focused more on industry and economics. This diffrence in economy of having slaves and not having slaves would cause their many diffrences. When the election of 1860 came around Aberham Lincoln would not appear on the ballot in Augusta and a majority of their votes went to Bell. In Franklin a majority of their votes were for Lincoln and the rest Breckinridge. Also possesing major roads well minor ones in Augusta also forced many diffrences between them. Their few similarities other then locations were just a good representation of the Civil War. These two factions showed how even towns right next to each other could easily be split and why the war would happen. The main difference would be how each of these towns were run economically one by slave labor and the other industry. These then would effect each town during the Civil War diffrently making it far harder On Augusta then Franklin. In the end each would be able to come through after the war but these two towns were good representation of the causes and split that happened from the Civil War.
Overall, the counties of Augusta (VA) and Franklin (PA)appear to be more unalike than similar. Although located 200 miles apart, the counties had different beliefs. Franklin County was not in support of slavery as Augusta was, but from the newspaper articles, the African Americans still seemed to be discriminated against. In the 1860 Presidential election, it made sense that the majority of the Franklin County was in support of Lincoln, and that in Augusta County, Lincoln wasn't even an option on the ballot. In looking at the comparison maps, education in Virginia was not as significant as it in Pennsylvania-there were many schools concentrated in Franklin County. A major difference between the counties was also what side they were on in the Civil War, hence the differing views and beliefs. The only main similarities were in the general make-up of the counties. For instance, Franklin and Augusta counties had the use of major railroads. Additionally, both counties shared some of the same crops, although Franklin produced more of a variety. The differing ideals of the counties were the main division between them.
The two communities were more alike then different. to start off, the size of the towns are similar. In both counties, propertyless heads of households made up only a small percentage of the population. In both nearly half of the households did not own any land. Both Franklin and Augusta were clustered around social institutions like schools. there were many different things between the counties but i think there were more similarities.
I also think that these towns were more unlike than they were alike. they may have been geographically close, but so were RichMond and DC. but that doesn't mean they were similar. There were many differences such as the free blacks living in Frainklin. there were whole records of freed slaves, but in Augusta, there were only records of slave owning families. there was not even mention of slaves in Frainklin. also the ballots were different. Augusta didn't even have Lincoln on the ballot for the 1860 election. It was probably due to the fact that Augusta was to be part of the Confederacy with the rest of Virginia. There may have been similarities, but the differences far out weigh them.
I agree with everyone in the fact that the two counties differences amoungst each other stood out greatly. Starting off their geographic location really made a difference in how the statistics gathered up of both counties. In Franklin there many more children attending school, the number of investments and value of land and industrial products in Franklin was far superior than that of Augustas. Franklin also had more elevation with many mountanous areas in which good soil was minor for farming. While on the other hand there was alot of mention of slaves in the records of Augusta during the 1960's and there was much more farming in the area. Also potically these two counties were split with Augusta not even having Abraham Lincoln on the ballot with a majority of whigs and then democrats following. There were few similarities such as the number of religions in each county and the population but overall the differences proved far superior in this case.
The two towns, Augusta and Franklin, though geographically close to each other, are very different in the way they deal with certain issues that they are presented with. Both communities write about their racism towards African American people, but Augusta’s reports in their newspapers are harsher and include more violent treatment of the people. Franklin was a bit more industrialized than Augusta, which was an agriculturally based society. Also, Augusta, in the south, spent less money on education than Franklin, in the north. I think that they are so different because they were influenced by different governments, and the north and the south held different ideas about slaves and types of industry.
I agree with everyone in the fact that the two communities were more different than alike. I expected that since they were so geographyically close to eachother their beliefs and customs would be alike. But they were not. I think that the biggest difference was that Augusta, which was in Virginia had slaves while Franklin, which was in pennsalvania did not. However, they both expressed their hatred toward african americans, sometimes in different ways. Another way they differend was that in Augusta Lincoln was not put on the ballot, while in Franklin Lincoln got the majority of the votes. People in the two communities did have similiar working jobs though. This comes down to the views they had during the civil war. The North vs. the South had different views when it came to slavery and the ideas that surrounded it.
Unlike today, and how border states are very similar, during this time period, there were many differences. The main thing that made them different was slavey and whether it was legal or not. In the two counties of Augusta and Franklin, slavery and other factors contributed to the differences. People in these counties wanted different laws put into action, and depending on if Lincoln was president or not played a huge role in whether or not people would still invest in their slaves. These documents show how different two counties within a short distance were different because of slavery. Both were damaged and eventually rebuilt after the Civil War.
I went into this expecting to find very different counties and i did. though they have basically the same geography, one is northern and one is southern, making them two different beasts. They would have similar enviornemental issues and would both know much about politics, being near the DC. The ecomonmic depression that struck both places seems somewhat surprising, seeing as the economy of Franklin was free and Augusta was slave. Despite their differences though, they are both American counties now!
In my mind, these two towns were as different as the countries that they chose to ally themselves with. First off, regarding party politics, the towns were VERY different. In August, the majority supported the Whig party, while in Franklin, it was split between Democs and Repubs. Next, I chose to look at the slave/African American populations. The two towns are similar in that most people didn't have slaves, Franklin had none. But the people that did have slaves in Augusta were the flour mill, distillery, and saw mill owners.
Then after the war, in the census, Augusta had about half the population as Franklin. But Augusta had about 3x the number of blacks. Both towns had more women than men, but, like today, the census only cared about the ones 5-18 years of age.
It appears as though these two counties represent a microcosm of the whole united states during the civil war period. Franklin county was industrialized and northern and Augusta county was slave owning and southern. This a-tests to the economic conflict the U.S experienced with the same separatin between northwest and southeast. There was also a greater population in Franklin than in Augusta which was the same as in the civil war causing the southern military strategy, hindered by a smaller number of soldiers, to consist of simply surviving while the northern strategy was to win, regardless of how many lives needed to be expended.
Although the two communities were very close geographically, they weren't that alike in the long run. The main differences were that the Augusta community was made up of slaveholders and was based around slavery while the community in Franklin was more of an industrialized area. The voting in the two communities were also opposites. The people of Augusta favored Bell and the people of Franklin strongly favored Lincoln. Overall the two communities were very different.
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In my own opinion, I think the two communities were more different then they were alike. First of all, holy crud Mr. Blais, there was a lot of information to search through, and I'm sure there was more that I didn't click into. But the archive was very well put together. There were some similarities, like land size of the two communities, and some other small factors, but I think they seem to have more differences. The first would be the number of slave holders, free individuals, slave holders, and total investment. The total weath was different between the total wealth. The heads of households were also different in many ways, ones with real estate, ones with no real estate, ones with personal property, etc. The population of the two communities also changed. Franklin's decreased, as Augusta's increased slightly. Finally, the miles of major and minor roads differed in both towns. These are just some of the MANY statistical differences. But I also think that the towns at a glance seem similar. They both seem like small, tight communitive towns, by the descriptions given in the archive. I think they was also similarities within the people of these two towns/communities as well.
I thought that the two counties would be very similar since they bordered each other. However, I agree with Dubey that they are very different. they are made up of different people, slave owning farmers who are a little richer in Augusta, and a more industrialized group in Franklin. The newspapers also seemed more similar at first, but had the region's own little twist on it. It is hard to discern how big the populations were because it was done as a percentage of the state and the states had different populations.
Wow, there was a lot of information in that archive. After reading through the documents, which took hours, I came to the decision that the two counties were more different than they were similar. Augusta county which was located in Virginia, had a greater population increase, as well as more slaves. Franklin county was bigger on manufacturing and education. I think the biggest difference between the two counties was the election of 1860. In Augusta county, Lincoln was not even put on the ballot, but in Franklin Lincoln recieved a majority of the votes. Even though the two counties were different in many ways, there were also a few similarities. Both counties were involved in the Civil War, and lost a number of troops. Both counties were affected by the crisis in the country, but both prevailed and ended up rebuilding their communites after the war.
I agree that the two counties are more different than alike. The main thing that distinguishes Franklin County from Augusta is that Franklin did not have slaves. This fact is the reason for many of the other differences between the two counties as well. For example, the Augusta County militia and the Franklin County militia were both activated, but the Augusta militia had to protect the white citizens of the county from slave rebellions on top of taking care of their other duties. Another difference between the counties that stems from slavery is that Franklin county had African-American churches while Augusta county did not. Also, the voters in Augusta did not even put Lincoln on the ballot and strongly favored Bell, while in Franklin County the voters favored Lincoln and hardly voted for Bell at all. Anyway, I would say that the counties had more differences than similarities and that the cause of many of these differences was based on the fact that Augusta County had slavery while Franklin County did not.
I would agree that the two counties were more different than similar, and a lot of that had to do with the presence or lack there of of slaves. In Augusta county, there was slavery, while in Franklin county there was not. There was more manufacturing in Franklin county, but they were both agricultura. Franklin county had a much higher literacy rate than Augusta county as well. They were very different suprisingly, even though they are pretty close together geographically. They were both part of the Confederacy, but did have different views politically. In Augusta county, the majority of the voting population were Whigs, while in Franklin county the majority was Democratic. this is a pretty major difference, which says a lot about how different the lifestyles in the two counties must have been. Overall, these two counties were far mor different than similar.
I agree that the two counties differ in many ways and that the differences are because Augusta had slaves while Franklin did not. Franklin and Augusta had similar geography and were located within a 200 mile radius of each other, although it seems that Augusta was more developed than Franklin. The people held similar jobs and there was a relatively close number of people who had those jobs as well. Other similarities were the real estate and personal estate that the people owned. Slavery, however establishes the many differences in the two counties. Abe Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in Augusta and most voted for Bell. In Franklin most people voted for Lincoln and some for Breckinridge. Franklin also had more major roads whereas Augusta had more minor roads. Although there were a few similarities between the two counties, the amount of differences out numbers the minute shared features between the two counties.
The two towns are geographicly very much the same. Because they were so close, the same types of problems would probably effect them. This lead to many similarities before the war in economic depression that were noticable in the letters and journals. They are also close to Washington and so people of these counties were aware of the political differances in congress and the white house. These political differances were put into full swing in the election of 1860. This showed the astonishing differance in politics between the two counties (lincoln wasnt even on the balot in Augusta). However, these two counties had many more important differances, the most important of course is that Augusta county sells slaves and Franklin county does not. Franklin also concentrated a lot on industry and economic developement. The civil war was a catastrafy for all comunities in the areas of battle and Franklin and Augusta county were no exception.
Two towns with almost identical geographical locations wouild in turn turn out very different. These two towns of Augusta and Franklin. These towns showed a north vs. south split. Though still close and even of the same state they would go about things very differently. This showed the obvious cause and need to slit Virginina and add West Virginia. Augusta was a a slave driven state well Franklin didn’t really have slaves and focused more on industry and economics. This diffrence in economy of having slaves and not having slaves would cause their many diffrences. When the election of 1860 came around Aberham Lincoln would not appear on the ballot in Augusta and a majority of their votes went to Bell. In Franklin a majority of their votes were for Lincoln and the rest Breckinridge. Also possesing major roads well minor ones in Augusta also forced many diffrences between them. Their few similarities other then locations were just a good representation of the Civil War. These two factions showed how even towns right next to each other could easily be split and why the war would happen. The main difference would be how each of these towns were run economically one by slave labor and the other industry. These then would effect each town during the Civil War diffrently making it far harder On Augusta then Franklin. In the end each would be able to come through after the war but these two towns were good representation of the causes and split that happened from the Civil War.
Overall, the counties of Augusta (VA) and Franklin (PA)appear to be more unalike than similar. Although located 200 miles apart, the counties had different beliefs. Franklin County was not in support of slavery as Augusta was, but from the newspaper articles, the African Americans still seemed to be discriminated against. In the 1860 Presidential election, it made sense that the majority of the Franklin County was in support of Lincoln, and that in Augusta County, Lincoln wasn't even an option on the ballot. In looking at the comparison maps, education in Virginia was not as significant as it in Pennsylvania-there were many schools concentrated in Franklin County. A major difference between the counties was also what side they were on in the Civil War, hence the differing views and beliefs. The only main similarities were in the general make-up of the counties. For instance, Franklin and Augusta counties had the use of major railroads. Additionally, both counties shared some of the same crops, although Franklin produced more of a variety. The differing ideals of the counties were the main division between them.
The two communities were more alike then different. to start off, the size of the towns are similar. In both counties, propertyless heads of households made up only a small percentage of the population. In both nearly half of the households did not own any land. Both Franklin and Augusta were clustered around social institutions like schools. there were many different things between the counties but i think there were more similarities.
I also think that these towns were more unlike than they were alike. they may have been geographically close, but so were RichMond and DC. but that doesn't mean they were similar. There were many differences such as the free blacks living in Frainklin. there were whole records of freed slaves, but in Augusta, there were only records of slave owning families. there was not even mention of slaves in Frainklin. also the ballots were different. Augusta didn't even have Lincoln on the ballot for the 1860 election. It was probably due to the fact that Augusta was to be part of the Confederacy with the rest of Virginia. There may have been similarities, but the differences far out weigh them.
I agree with everyone in the fact that the two counties differences amoungst each other stood out greatly. Starting off their geographic location really made a difference in how the statistics gathered up of both counties. In Franklin there many more children attending school, the number of investments and value of land and industrial products in Franklin was far superior than that of Augustas. Franklin also had more elevation with many mountanous areas in which good soil was minor for farming. While on the other hand there was alot of mention of slaves in the records of Augusta during the 1960's and there was much more farming in the area. Also potically these two counties were split with Augusta not even having Abraham Lincoln on the ballot with a majority of whigs and then democrats following. There were few similarities such as the number of religions in each county and the population but overall the differences proved far superior in this case.
The two towns, Augusta and Franklin, though geographically close to each other, are very different in the way they deal with certain issues that they are presented with. Both communities write about their racism towards African American people, but Augusta’s reports in their newspapers are harsher and include more violent treatment of the people. Franklin was a bit more industrialized than Augusta, which was an agriculturally based society. Also, Augusta, in the south, spent less money on education than Franklin, in the north. I think that they are so different because they were influenced by different governments, and the north and the south held different ideas about slaves and types of industry.
I agree with everyone in the fact that the two communities were more different than alike. I expected that since they were so geographyically close to eachother their beliefs and customs would be alike. But they were not. I think that the biggest difference was that Augusta, which was in Virginia had slaves while Franklin, which was in pennsalvania did not. However, they both expressed their hatred toward african americans, sometimes in different ways. Another way they differend was that in Augusta Lincoln was not put on the ballot, while in Franklin Lincoln got the majority of the votes. People in the two communities did have similiar working jobs though. This comes down to the views they had during the civil war. The North vs. the South had different views when it came to slavery and the ideas that surrounded it.
Unlike today, and how border states are very similar, during this time period, there were many differences. The main thing that made them different was slavey and whether it was legal or not. In the two counties of Augusta and Franklin, slavery and other factors contributed to the differences. People in these counties wanted different laws put into action, and depending on if Lincoln was president or not played a huge role in whether or not people would still invest in their slaves. These documents show how different two counties within a short distance were different because of slavery. Both were damaged and eventually rebuilt after the Civil War.
I went into this expecting to find very different counties and i did. though they have basically the same geography, one is northern and one is southern, making them two different beasts. They would have similar enviornemental issues and would both know much about politics, being near the DC. The ecomonmic depression that struck both places seems somewhat surprising, seeing as the economy of Franklin was free and Augusta was slave. Despite their differences though, they are both American counties now!
In my mind, these two towns were as different as the countries that they chose to ally themselves with.
First off, regarding party politics, the towns were VERY different. In August, the majority supported the Whig party, while in Franklin, it was split between Democs and Repubs.
Next, I chose to look at the slave/African American populations. The two towns are similar in that most people didn't have slaves, Franklin had none. But the people that did have slaves in Augusta were the flour mill, distillery, and saw mill owners.
Then after the war, in the census, Augusta had about half the population as Franklin. But Augusta had about 3x the number of blacks. Both towns had more women than men, but, like today, the census only cared about the ones 5-18 years of age.
It appears as though these two counties represent a microcosm of the whole united states during the civil war period. Franklin county was industrialized and northern and Augusta county was slave owning and southern. This a-tests to the economic conflict the U.S experienced with the same separatin between northwest and southeast. There was also a greater population in Franklin than in Augusta which was the same as in the civil war causing the southern military strategy, hindered by a smaller number of soldiers, to consist of simply surviving while the northern strategy was to win, regardless of how many lives needed to be expended.
Although the two communities were very close geographically, they weren't that alike in the long run. The main differences were that the Augusta community was made up of slaveholders and was based around slavery while the community in Franklin was more of an industrialized area. The voting in the two communities were also opposites. The people of Augusta favored Bell and the people of Franklin strongly favored Lincoln. Overall the two communities were very different.
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